Episodes

4 days ago
4 days ago
🎙️ Episode Summary:
Wes Deese and Gretta Dare wrap up all the off-campus student housing news for February 2026. They cover upcoming industry conferences and major shifts in property management, including LV Collective formally bringing their operations in-house. The hosts break down the latest pre-leasing data from Yardi Matrix, comparing it against other data sources and discussing the current dip in rent growth.
The episode also dives into critical legislative updates, highlighting the bipartisan Housing for the 21st Century Act that recently passed the House , and features an in-depth debate on a controversial new lease renewal ordinance in College Park, Maryland.
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⏱️ Episode Timestamps:
00:02:09 - Welcome & Intro: An overview of the Student Housing Insight platform and the monthly Shop Talk webinar
00:02:45 - Upcoming Conferences: Previewing Interface Student Housing, Bisnow spring events, and Bonard's Canadian Student Housing Summit
00:05:35 - Industry News: The rise of "white label" management services and LV Collective launching an in-house property management platform
00:12:57 - Data & Pre-leasing: Analyzing Yardi Matrix's report showing 2026-2027 pre-leasing at 52.3% and a discussion on rent growth metrics
00:19:19 - Financial Markets: Good news from the Student Housing Business magazine about financial institutions opening money back up to the student sector
00:21:35 - Legislative Updates: Breaking down the Housing for the 21st Century Act (passed 390-9 in the House) and its implications for development
00:26:17 - Local Ordinance Debate: Deep dive into College Park, Maryland's new ordinance requiring landlords to wait 180 days before offering lease renewals
00:43:45 - Outro & Networking: Announcing the "Shop Talk Link Up" networking brunch happening at the Interface conference
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📎Sources & Links Mentioned
Student Housing Insight:
https://www.studenthousinginsight.com/events
Student Housing Business:
http://studenthousingbusiness.com
Yardi Matrix Student Housing Marketing Report February 2026: https://www.yardimatrix.com/blog/student-housing-market-report/
Housing Legislation — A Rare Bipartisan Moment
https://bipartisanpolicy.org/explainer/whats-in-the-housing-for-the-21st-century-act/
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6 days ago
2026 Spring Conference Preview - SHI1025
6 days ago
6 days ago
🎙️Episode Summary:
In this spring conference preview episode of the Student Housing Insight podcast, host Wesley Deese gives a comprehensive rundown of upcoming industry events. Wes discusses the value of attending these events for networking and education, whether you are a site-level manager, a C-suite executive, or a supplier partner.
The episode features a special interview with Rich Kelley, who shares exciting details about the highly anticipated Interface Student Housing Conference in Austin, Texas. Additionally, Martin Varga joins the show to discuss the Canadian Student Housing Summit in Toronto, hosted by Bonard. Wesley also highlights upcoming regional Bisnow events and reminds listeners to utilize the SHI events page to grab exclusive registration discounts.
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⏱️Episode Timestamps:
00:01:08 - Welcome and Overview of Student Housing Insight and ShopTalk.
00:02:38 - The Tradition of the Spring Conference Preview Episode.
00:08:58 - Preview of Upcoming Bisnow Student Housing Conferences.
00:14:14 - Interview with Rich Kelley Begins.
00:15:13 - Recap of the Recent LeaseCon and TurnCon.
00:17:57 - Interface Austin Details including Dates, Tech, and Agenda.
00:32:28 - Interview with Martin Varga Begins.
00:35:58 - Details on the Toronto Summit happening May 28th.
00:43:43 - Episode Wrap-Up and Final Thoughts.
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đź’ˇSponsor Spotlight:
This episode is sponsored by Student Housing Mattress, powered by Jamison Bedding.They provide US-made mattresses, including the durable blue vinyl models known throughout the industry. They offer fast shipping anywhere in the lower 48 states to ensure properties are fully prepared for move-in day.
Visit their website to learn more:
https://www.studenthousingmattress.com
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📎Sources & Websites Mentioned:
Student Housing Insight Industry Events Page:
https://www.studenthousinginsight.com/events
ShopTalk Webinars:
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Thursday Feb 12, 2026
What Happened in Student Housing: January 2026 Wrap-Up - SHI 1024
Thursday Feb 12, 2026
Thursday Feb 12, 2026
🎙️Episode Summary
In this month’s wrap-up, host Wes Deese and co-host Gretta Dare welcome 2026 with a breakdown of the major shifts in the student housing industry rankings. Special guest Jason Fort, EVP at Asset Living, joins the show to discuss Asset Living’s historic rise to the number one spot on the Student Housing Business Top 25 Managers list, overtaking American Campus Communities. Jason shares insights into their organic growth, the increasing trend of multifamily-to-student conversions, and the importance of operational flexibility in today's market.
The team also dives into significant development news, including Core Spaces' massive 2,352-bed "ĹŤLiv Columbia" project and a unique hotel-to-student housing conversion Columbia, SC and a rare new dev/conversion in Manhattan by BDB Construction. Finally, Wes and Gretta analyze the latest Fall enrollment data, highlighting a surge in community college attendance and sparking a candid conversation about degree requirements for industry professionals.
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⏱️Timestamps
00:00:00 – Sponsor Message: Introduction to Social Pro from Opiniion.
00:02:08 – Intro & Weather Reports: Wes and Gretta catch up on the winter storms hitting North Carolina and College Station.
00:05:00 – Top 25 Managers Rankings: Analysis of the new industry rankings and Asset Living taking the #1 spot.
00:06:40 – Guest Interview: Jason Fort of Asset Living joins to discuss their growth strategy and the shift from multifamily to student housing operations.
00:16:27 – Third-Party Management & Shared Services: A look at the Top Third-Party Managers list, Cardinal Group crossing the 100k bed threshold, and the rise of "white label" management services.
00:20:00 – Industry Consolidation: Discussion on recent mergers, including Yugo and Campus Advantage.
00:23:00 – Top 25 Owners List: Reviewing the top owners, including American Campus Communities, Scion, and the rapid growth of Core Spaces.
00:31:30 – Development News (CORE Spaces): Breakdown of the massive ōLiv Columbia project and the operational challenges of managing mega-developments.
00:43:00 – Manhattan Conversion Project: BDB Construction’s conversion of a Financial District hotel into the world’s tallest student accommodation.
00:52:00 – Enrollment Data Analysis: Insights from the National Student Clearinghouse and Chronicle of Higher Education regarding Fall 2025/2026 enrollment trends.
01:00:00 – The Degree Debate: Gretta and Wes discuss the necessity of college degrees for various roles within the student housing industry.
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đź’ˇSponsor Social Pro by Opiniion This episode is sponsored by Social Pro from Opiniion, the number one social media management platform designed specifically for property management. Social Pro allows you to create beautiful, optimized content in seconds and publish it across every major social network with just one click. From AI-powered content creation to a unified inbox for all comments and DMs, Social Pro elevates your brand and simplifies resident engagement.
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📎Sources & Links:
Student Housing Insight: https://www.studenthousinginsight.com/
ShopTalk Webinars: https://www.shoptalk.info/
Student Housing Business: https://studenthousingbusiness.com/
National Student Clearinghouse:
BDB Construction:
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Tuesday Feb 03, 2026
SHI.Talks with Courtney Colegrove - SHI 1023
Tuesday Feb 03, 2026
Tuesday Feb 03, 2026
🎙️ Episode Summary:
In this episode, host Wesley Deese is joined by Student Housing Insight Ambassador Courtney Colegrove from Core Spaces.They discuss Courtney's journey from resident assistant to the corporate side of student housing and the inspiration behind her new content project, "SHI Talks" (a cheeky play on "Shit Talks"). Recorded on-site at LeaseCon / TurnCon 2025, the episode features a series of "man-on-the-street" style interviews.
Courtney puts vendors and operators on the spot with rapid-fire questions, revealing candid takes on everything from "last-minute approvals" vs. "last-minute cancellations" to the real villains of property management: construction delays or unrealistic timelines. Tune in for a fun, human look at the people powering the industry.
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⏱️ Timestamps:
00:00:19 – Sponsor Message: Social Pro from Opinion
00:02:06 – Intro
00:03:38 – Meet Courtney Colegrove: From Public Health to Student Housing
00:08:00 – The "SHI Talks" Concept: Bringing humor and authenticity to industry content
00:11:40 – Vendor Interviews: Alex Bennett (Opinion)
00:14:10 – Vendor Interviews: Anthony Tuppin II (Lease Magnets)
00:17:54 – Operator Interviews: Jordan Verdean (CORE Spaces)
00:19:42 – Operator Interviews: Jake Zaino (Caliber Living)
00:21:15 – Outro
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đź’ˇ Sponsors:
Opinion (Social Pro) This episode is powered by Social Pro from Opinion, the number one social media management platform designed specifically for property management. Social Pro allows teams to create, schedule, and publish optimized content across all major social networks—including Reels and stories—in just seconds. With built-in Canva integration and multi-location analytics, it simplifies how you elevate your resident engagement.
Check them out here: Visit https://opiniion.com/shi/
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📎 Sources & Links Mentioned:
Student Housing Insight:
https://www.studenthousinginsight.com/
ShopTalk Webinars:
Lease Magnets:
CORE Spaces:
Caliber Living:

Friday Jan 23, 2026
Behind The Biz - VerbaFlo - SHI 0121
Friday Jan 23, 2026
Friday Jan 23, 2026
🎙️Episode Summary
In this episode, recorded live from Lease Con / Turn Con in Charlotte, host Wesley Deese sits down with Dan Smith, co-founder of Verbaflo and host of the Housed podcast. While Dan is a familiar voice in the UK and European student housing sectors, he is making his debut in the US market with Verbaflo, an award-winning conversational AI platform designed specifically for student accommodations.
The conversation covers Dan's journey from operations and consultancy to tech entrepreneurship, driven by the need for better communication tools in the industry. Dan and Wes discuss the capabilities of Verbaflo—which supports 180 languages across voice, chat, and messaging apps—and how it achieved "PropTech of the Year" status in Europe. They also explore the company's strategy for the US market, including a risk-free pilot program designed to prove value to operators before they commit to contracts.
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⏱️Timestamps & Segments
00:00:00 – Intro: The reality of speaking with AI agents.
00:03:20 – Introduction to the episode: Profiling Verbaflo.
00:06:45 – Interview begins: Welcoming Dan Smith to the US.
00:08:53 – Dan’s background: From gin distilleries to student housing operations.
00:09:50 – The origin of Verbaflo: Solving the communication problem.
00:15:30 – Operational efficiency vs. staff reduction: Enhancing the community manager role.
00:19:40 – US Expansion Strategy: The 3-month risk-free pilot program.
00:20:45 – Winning "PropTech of the Year" and managing 200,000 beds in Europe.
00:25:09 – Upcoming appearances: Interface Student Housing Conference 2026.
00:24:45 – The value of remaining an active consultant while selling tech.
00:27:30 – Contact information and the Housed podcast.
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📎Resources & Links Mentioned
Verbaflo:
Shop Talk: https://www.shoptalk.info/
Student Housing Insight: https://www.studenthousinginsight.com/
Housed – The Shared Living Podcast: Dan Smith’s weekly podcast covering the UK/European sector.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/housed-the-shared-living-podcast/id1729644031
Interface Student Housing Conference:
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Thursday Jan 15, 2026
The Student Perspective: What Off-Campus Housing Gets Right (and Wrong) - SHI1020
Thursday Jan 15, 2026
Thursday Jan 15, 2026
🎙️Episode Summary
In this episode, recorded live at the LeaseCon+TurnCon in Charlotte, host Wesley Deese moderates a candid panel with five college students about their off-campus housing experiences. The students share unfiltered feedback on the increasingly early timeline for signing leases—with some securing senior housing as early as their freshman year. The discussion covers the critical role of social media and word-of-mouth in their decision-making, often outweighing traditional marketing or AI tools. The panel also dives into the realities of move-in day, the amenities that actually matter (versus those that just look good on a tour), and the frustrations caused by poor communication and aggressive renewal tactics. This "voice of the customer" session offers essential takeaways for operators looking to improve resident satisfaction and retention.
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⏱️Timestamps
00:00:00 – Intro / Cold Open: The shock of signing leases 18 months in advance.
00:00:40 – Sponsor Message: Improving resident engagement with Opiniion's Social Pro.
00:02:27 – Host Welcome: Wesley Deese sets the stage for the live student panel.
00:10:09 – Meet the Panel: Introductions from students Lydia, Erica, Dana, Kara, and Austin.
00:12:03 – The Housing Search & Timelines: From relying on word-of-mouth to signing senior leases during freshman year.
00:19:15 – Move-In Day: A look at organized check-ins versus chaotic experiences with maintenance issues.
00:33:56 – Amenities That Matter: The reality of what gets used (gyms and pools) versus marketing fluff like golf simulators.
00:36:11 – The Renewal Decision: Why students choose to leave and the annoyance of redundant renewal calls.
00:44:59 – Audience Q&A: The panel answers operator questions regarding furniture quality, the use of AI in leasing, and social media engagement.
01:03:04 – Outro: Key takeaways for operators and final thoughts.
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đź’ˇSponsor Spotlight
This episode is sponsored by Opiniion and their new Social Pro platform. Social Pro helps property teams streamline their social media management, allowing them to create consistent content, publish across multiple platforms instantly, and measure engagement without overburdening their staff.
Learn more about Social Pro: opiniion.com/shi
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đź”— Resources & Links
Student Housing Insight:Â
https://www.studenthousinginsight.com/
Shop Talk Webinars: Register for monthly legislative updates and pre-leasing data at

Monday Dec 29, 2025
What Happened in Student Housing: November & December '25 Wrap-Up - SHI 1020
Monday Dec 29, 2025
Monday Dec 29, 2025
🎙️Episode Summary
In this wrap-up episode for November and December, Wes Deese and co-host Gretta Dare take a deep dive into the busy conference season and the latest industry news. The duo recaps Wes’s experience as an "influencer" at the OpTech conference in Las Vegas, including insights on prop-tech trends and the spectacle of the Sphere. They then shift focus to a detailed breakdown of LeaseCon TurnCon, sharing takeaways from the student panel, the importance of the human element in leasing, and the ongoing staffing challenges discussed at the ShopTalk Executive Summit.
The conversation moves to critical news impacting the sector, starting with a discussion on the shifting value perception of four-year degrees based on a recent NBC poll. Wes and Gretta also tackle the FTC’s recent settlement with Greystar regarding fee transparency and analyze the latest Open Doors data showing a decline in new international student enrollment. Finally, they cover major company news, including Lincoln Property Company’s acquisition of Capstone Development Partners and updates on Yugo’s portfolio growth.
⏱️Timestamps
00:03:34 – OpTech Conference Recap: Being an "Influencer" & PropTech trends
00:10:00 – Exhibit Hall highlights: App Work’s unique booth strategy
00:15:47 – Hologram technology in conferences
00:18:00 – LeaseCon TurnCon Recap: Bringing the whole team
00:23:18 – The Student Panel: Why students still want human connection
00:34:00 – ShopTalk Executive Summit: HR and maintenance staffing challenges
00:44:50 – Debate: Where should future conferences be held? (Charlotte vs. Dallas)
00:53:50 – Industry News: NBC Poll on the declining perceived value of college degrees
01:06:00 – FTC & Greystar: The settlement on "junk fees" and transparency in advertising
01:16:00 – International Student Trends: Analyzing the Open Doors data and enrollment drops
01:25:00 – Company News: Lincoln Property Company acquires Capstone Development Partners
01:28:40 – Management Updates: Peak and Yugo portfolio awards
đź’ˇSponsor Spotlight: Jameson Bedding
This episode is sponsored by Jameson Bedding. As you prepare your budget and inventory for the upcoming summer turn, don't let the stress of mattress replacement slow you down. Student Housing Pros rely on Jameson Bedding for their US-made mattresses that ship quickly anywhere in the lower 48, along with durable encasements to extend the life of your inventory. Visit StudentHousingMattress.com to learn more and stay ready for move-in.
đź”— References & Resources
Student Housing Insight Platform:
https://www.studenthousinginsight.com/
ShopTalk Webinar Info:
Open Doors Data (International Student Enrollment): https://opendoorsdata.org/annual-release/international-students/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
OpTech Conference (NMHC):
Friday Dec 26, 2025
Profiles in Student Housing - Teddy Abdelmalek - SHI 1019
Friday Dec 26, 2025
Friday Dec 26, 2025
🎧 Episode Summary
In this episode, host Wesley Deese sits down with Teddy Abdelmalek from HH Redstone to discuss the current state of student housing operations following the recent Shop Talk Executive Summit and LeaseCon/TurnCon conferences. Teddy shares his unique professional journey, transitioning from a pre-med track and Resident Assistant (RA) role into a career in property management and business development.
The conversation explores the critical impact of FF&E (Furniture, Fixtures, and Equipment) on leasing success, specifically highlighting how comfortable mattresses can significantly influence a resident's experience and decision-making. Teddy also outlines HH Redstone's "secret sauce" operational philosophy: treating residents as if they are the CEOs or owners of the property to drive performance and reputation. Finally, the discussion covers the importance of "speed winning" in leasing, the transition from operations to business development, and why investing in onsite talent is crucial for 2025.
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⏱ Episode Timestamps & Key Topics
00:01:38 – Recap of the Shop Talk Executive Summit and LeaseCon
00:04:55 – The Strategic Importance of FF&E and Mattresses in Leasing
00:07:05 – Innovations in Common Areas: The Recre Kiosk
00:08:45 – Teddy’s Journey: From Pre-Med to Student Housing Property Management
00:15:30 – Building on University Relationships and Operational Growth
00:18:20 – Advice for Transitioning from Operations to Business Development
00:21:25 – HH Redstone’s Geographic Focus and Market Strategy
00:25:40 – The "Secret Sauce": Treating Residents Like CEOs
00:33:15 – Moving the Needle: Speed Wins and Bias Towards Action
00:36:15 – The Role of AI as a Supplement to Human Effort
00:37:30 – 2025 Takeaways: Investing in Staff and Professional Development
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👉 Learn more and stay move-in ready: https://www.studenthousingmattress.com
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đź”— Sources & References Mentioned in the Episode
Student Housing Insight:
https://www.studenthousinginsight.com
Shop Talk Home Page:
https://www.studenthousinginsight.com
StudentHousingMattress.com (Jamison Bedding):
https://www.studenthousingmattress.com
HH Redstone:
Lease Con / Turn Con (Interface Conference Group):
https://interfaceconferencegroup.com
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Thursday Dec 04, 2025
How Legal Strategy Is Changing Student Housing - SHI 1018
Thursday Dec 04, 2025
Thursday Dec 04, 2025
🎧Episode Summary
In this episode, Student Housing Insight Ambassador Cody Hardy sits down with Tim Baldwin, attorney and owner of Property Management Law Solutions, for a deep dive into how landlord–tenant law has evolved in today’s post-COVID, AI-driven world. They unpack the foundational mistakes operators often make, the rise of tenant attorneys and class-action exposure, how AI is arming residents with new tools, and why having a trusted legal partner is no longer optional — it's a proactive risk-management strategy. Whether you're managing a single community or overseeing a national portfolio, this conversation reframes how to think about efficiency, documentation, compliance, and long-term protection for your assets and your team.
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⏱️Timestamps
00:02:21 – Introduction to today’s topic and why operators need this conversation
00:04:38 – Cody introduces guest Tim Baldwin
00:08:28 – Common foundational mistakes in property management
00:11:04 – COVID, AI, and the rise of tenant attorneys
00:15:05 – How the industry has changed since 2020
00:20:25 – Why “doing it the right way” is actually more efficient
00:24:42 – PM Law Solutions’ online eviction platform
00:27:10 – How Tim’s team is structured to support multiple properties
00:29:16 – Misconceptions about cost and “I’ve always done it this way”
00:31:54 – How the industry has shifted: ESAs, accommodations, regulations
00:36:03 – No such thing as a dumb question — why clarity protects you
00:38:07 – How to connect with Tim Baldwin
00:38:34 – Wes’s closing takeaways & upcoming content preview
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💡Sponsor Highlight StudentHousingMattress.com — Powered by Jamison Bedding Move-in day can unravel fast when even one bed is missing. Inspections miss things, local stores don’t carry student-housing sizes, and replacements are slow. StudentHousingMattress.com solves this with fast-shipping, U.S.-made mattresses — including industry-standard durable blue-vinyl models. Stay ready for move-in.
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đź”—Mentioned Resources & Links
Student Housing Insight:
https://www.studenthousinginsight.com/
ShopTalk.Info: https://www.shoptalk.info/
Cody Hardy’s LinkedIn Page:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-hardy-cam-797100189/
Property Management Law Solutions, PLLC:
Student Housing Mattress:

Tuesday Nov 11, 2025
What happened in Student Housing: October '25 Wrap-Up - SHI 1017
Tuesday Nov 11, 2025
Tuesday Nov 11, 2025
🎙️ Episode Summary In this monthly wrap-up, host Wes Deese and co-host Gretta Dare unpack the biggest developments shaping the student housing industry in October. From insights at the NMHC Student Housing Conference to major legislative wins in California’s student housing crisis, the episode covers market trends, AI in operations, and key company news. They discuss highlights from NMHC—including the 2025 Market Outlook, AI integration panels, and reflections on data transparency across operators. The duo also dives into new California laws aimed at easing housing shortages for college students, an adaptive reuse project in Long Beach, and other headlines impacting developers and operators nationwide. The episode closes with upcoming events like ShopTalk and LeaseCon/TurnCon, plus a spotlight on industry promotions and partnerships.
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đź’ˇ Sponsor Spotlight: The Guarantors This episode is sponsored by The Guarantors, the industry leader in rent coverage and risk reduction solutions for student housing operators. Their Rent Coverage product eliminates the uncertainty of parental guarantors, ensuring faster leasing conversions and reliable protection against rent loss.
👉 Learn more at theguarantors.com/student
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⏱️ Episode Timestamps
00:05:05 – NMHC Conference Recap: Location, Attendance, and Vibe
00:08:33 – Industry Networking and TopGolf Mixer Fundraiser Recap
00:09:40 – Waymo Ride Experience in Scottsdale
00:16:55 – NMHC Key Sessions: 2025 Market Outlook & Executive Strategy Panel 00:22:40 – Data Sharing Debate and University Collaboration Challenges
00:32:47 – AI and Analytics in Student Housing Panel Highlights
00:38:07 – Breaking News: California’s Student Housing Legislation
00:51:57 – Adaptive Reuse Project: Office-to-Student-Housing Conversion in Long Beach
00:54:48 – Company News: Mergers, Partnerships, and Promotions
01:01:08 – Upcoming Events: ShopTalk, LeaseCon/TurnCon, and Executive Summit
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đź”— References & Resources
Student Housing Insight: https://www.studenthousinginsight.com/
Shop Talk Webinars: https://www.shoptalk.info/
Hi, How Are You Foundation: https://www.hihowareyou.org/
NMHC Student Housing Conference: https://www.nmhc.org/
Yugo: https://yugo.com/en-gb/home
PeakMade Real Estate: https://peakmade.com/
Scion Group: https://thesciongroup.com/
Capstone Development Partners: https://capdevpartners.com/
Fountain Residential Partners: https://fountainresidential.com/

